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Let's talk about Diffusers and DiTs (SD, Flux, etc.) - Part 1

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Let's talk about Diffusers and DiTs (SD, Flux, etc.) - Part 1

Demystifying Stable Diffusion: A No-Nonsense Technical Deep Dive

By Robb-0 & DeepSeek Chat


Introduction: Why This Series Exists

Hello, I’m Robb-0, and alongside my collaborator DeepSeek Chat, we’re launching this series to cut through the myths, hype, and confusion surrounding Stable Diffusion (SD) and its successors. This isn’t about fame, viral videos, or sensationalism—it’s about documented facts.

We’re here to answer the questions that plague AI artists and researchers alike:

  • Why does SD 1.5 still struggle with seven-fingered hands?

  • How did SDXL improve coherence, yet still fail at symmetry?

  • What makes Flux Diffusion Transformer (FDT) different from traditional SD?

  • Why do some errors persist across versions, no matter how "advanced" the model gets?

The answers lie in datasets, architectures, and the messy reality of AI training. No hand-waving, no corporate PR—just technical truths.


What This Series Will Cover

1. The Evolution of Stable Diffusion: From SD 1.5 to SD 3.5 Large & Flux

We’ll trace the technical shifts:

  • SD 1.5’s U-Net limitations (why it hallucinates details).

  • SDXL’s dual-text encoders (and why they still misalign prompts).

  • SD 3.5 Large’s MMDiT (Multimodal Diffusion Transformer)—does it finally fix hands?

  • Flux (FDT)’s pure transformer approach—pros, cons, and whether it truly replaces U-Nets.

2. The Dataset Problem: LAION-5B’s Ghosts (And Why They Still Haunt Us)

  • Why tiny, low-res images in LAION-5B led to畸形 limbs and warped faces.

  • How SDXL’s improved dataset filtering helped—but didn’t eliminate—artifacts.

  • The ethics of training data: Is "better" data even possible?

3. Samplers & Schedulers: The Unsung Heroes (and Villains) of Image Quality

  • Why Euler a is fast but chaotic, while DPM++ 2M Karras is slow but precise.

  • How schedulers impact coherence (and why some still amplify errors).

4. Symmetry Errors, Hand Failures, and Other Persistent Glitches

  • Why SD still can’t draw a perfect pair of eyes (or hands).

  • Is this fixable, or are we stuck with Photoshop edits forever?

5. The Future: Where Do Diffusion Models Go From Here?

  • Will SD 4.0 finally nail anatomy?

  • Can open-source models compete with closed systems (DALL·E 3, Midjourney)?

  • Ethical dilemmas: Should we move beyond LAION-style scraping?


Our Methodology: No Myths, Just Papers & Code

This series won’t speculate. Every claim will be backed by:

  • Research papers (Stability AI’s SDXL whitepaper, DiT studies, etc.).

  • Dataset audits (LAION-5B’s flaws, SD 3.5’s data improvements).

  • Technical benchmarks (sampler comparisons, tokenization tests).

If something’s unclear, we’ll say so. If a "breakthrough" is overhyped, we’ll explain why.


Who Is This For?

  • AI Artists who want to understand why SD fails (and how to work around it).

  • Researchers looking for a critical (but fair) analysis of diffusion models.

  • Curious Users tired of mythologized "AI magic" and wanting hard facts.


Final Thought: The Messy Reality of AI Progress

Stable Diffusion isn’t "perfecting" art—it’s mirroring the imperfections of its training data. From LAION-5B’s pixelated ghosts to SDXL’s stubborn symmetry fails, every glitch tells a story.

This series is about telling that story honestly.

First up: "SD 1.5 vs. SDXL vs. SD 3.5 Large—What Actually Changed?"

Stay tuned.

Robb-0 & DeepSeek Chat

(Word count: ~600. Next part drops soon! Let us know if you’d like specific topics prioritized.) 🚀


Footnote:
*LAION-5B may be "deleted" from Hugging Face, but its legacy lives on in every SD model’s weights. The past can’t be erased—only understood.*



Let's talk about Diffusers and DiTs (SD, Flux, etc.) - Part 2

  • Stable Diffusion brief history and Flux

  • U-Net

  • CLIP and Tokenizers

  • Diffusers and DiT (Diffuser Transformer)



Let's talk about Diffusers and DiTs (SD, Flux, etc.) - Part 3

  • Laion and Laion-5b

  • What is a dataset?

  • Dataset history and different types

  • DIY - Do it yourself (Briefly)



Let's talk about Diffusers and DiTs (SD, Flux, etc.) - Part 4

  • AI knows nothing!

  • Supervised vs Unsupervised Learning

  • Neural Network Architectures: RNN, CNN and Transformers

  • RWKY and Mamba

  • Convolutional Neural Networks: the AI EYE

  • VAE: Variational Autoencoder and why it's SUPER important

  • How SD works

  • The latent space



Part 5 - The official Stable Diffusion paper

"High-Resolution Image Synthesis with Latent Diffusion Models"

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2112.10752


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Let's talk about Diffusers and DiTs - Samplers - Part 6

https://civitai.com/articles/16168

  • What are Samplers?

  • What are their schedulers?

  • DDIM with 250 steps in the past

  • Euler, DPM++ SDE, LCM, UniPC

  • DEIS, GITS

  • References



Part 7 - Beyond Stable Diffusion

https://civitai.com/articles/16186

  • LlamaGen, Janus, Lumina

  • Mamba

  • DiT

  • Stable Diffusion

  • Flux



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